So What Else Is Going On

Scott hates backwards hats and potentially gets questionable LASIK surgery. Kaitlin overcomes an addiction to allergy medication. Emily and Kaitlin double down on their moon landing skepticism, which spirals into flat earth theories and, somehow, glitter company conspiracies. Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/

Kaitlin finds her perfect pair of sunglasses despite everyone else's opinion. Minivans are elite. Keanu Reeves might be the nicest human alive. We casually dip our toes into conspiracy theories. Does worship music actually manipulate your emotions? Everyone shares their green flags (for once, some positive self-talk). Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/

Britt Frank is a licensed neuropsychotherapist, speaker, and author known for making complex mental health concepts actually make sense. Through her work, Britt helps people understand their minds and nervous systems in a way that’s practical, empowering, and free of shame. In this episode, we cover a lot of ground. Britt reframes anxiety as a potential superpower, breaks down how trauma shapes us, and explains why our self-talk matters...maybe even more than we think. We also dive into the nervous system and how that connects to things like the two (yes, two) types of procrastination. We talk about the difference between emotionally skilled and unskilled families, how those patterns follow us into adulthood, and what it looks like to stop the cycle of emotional regression. It’s insightful, practical, and might just change the way you understand yourself. Britt’s Website: https://www.brittfrank.com/contact Align Your Mind: https://amzn.to/4bGvkPj The Science of Stuck: https://amzn.to/4unSamp Follow Britt on I

Emily finds months’ worth of missing lip products buried deep in the couch. Mysterious glowing orbs set off the alarms at Matt’s work, completely derail Kaitlin’s week, and leave the entire SWE team questioning reality (ghosts? government? the afterlife? all of the above?). Kaitlin’s face-brushing journey fails, Matt and Emily’s dishwasher and oven both die, and  the comforting reality that all of our food is killing us. Kaitlin turns down a potential interview guest for the first time ever. Then Caroline and Hannah call in and everyone shares what their biggest first-date red flag would be. Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/

Dr. Mikala Albertson is a board-certified family practice physician, author, and passionate advocate for women’s health. She’s known for helping women care for the imperfect bodies we actually live in while navigating the ordinary lives we’re actually living. In her new book, Everything I Wish I Could Tell You About Midlife: A Woman’s Guide to Health in the Body You Actually Have, Mikala shares both scientific insight and personal stories to help women better understand what’s happening in their bodies during midlife, from perimenopause and hormones to ADHD, stress, supplements, and the overwhelming amount of health advice women are constantly given. We also talk about the surprising wisdom of the Serenity Prayer and what it looks like to radically accept the things about ourselves we cannot change while still caring well for our bodies. Everything I Wish I Could Tell You About Midlife: https://amzn.to/3MxL8dH Dr. Mikala’s Website: https://www.mikalaalbertsonmd.com/ Mikala’s Podcast: Real (Mid)Life: https://w

Kaitlin turns 37. Parker turns 3. Kaitlin goes to the spa and her foot falls off. She’s also considering a mushroom coffee journey and would like reviews before committing. Lifetime Fitness is incredible. Kaitlin starts doing Peloton workouts. Scott starts working out...and is considering snowboarding for the first time in forever. Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/

Natalie Runion is the founder of Raised to Stay, author, worship leader, and pastor’s kid turned pastor. After watching people she loved walk away from the church, Natalie began writing about her own wrestling with faith and church hurt. What started as personal reflection grew into a global community committed to staying with Jesus while pursuing healing and restoration within the Church. In this episode, we talk about why it can feel so difficult for women to find true, sacred sisterhood. Why does gossip creep in so easily? Why does jealousy divide us? Why are strong female leaders often labeled “controlling”? And why do working moms and stay-at-home moms sometimes turn on each other instead of linking arms? Natalie speaks candidly about the cultural and church dynamics that fracture women’s relationships and what it takes to build genuine, life-giving friendships instead. I Don’t Even Like Women: https://amzn.to/46rJnVS Raised to Stay: https://amzn.to/46t6G1w Natalie’s Website: https://natalierunion.com/ F

Kaitlin and Scott, Emily and Matt share their couple origin stories in honor of Valentine's Day. It’s v cute. We unpack the Olympic cheater. Lindsey Vonn (is not the Olympic cheater). The human grass during Bad Bunny’s halftime show. Matt turns another year older. We realize we now relate more to the parents of professional athletes than the athletes themselves. Organized sports? Apparently bad now. Parenting content on Instagram is ruining everything. Are Kaitlin and Scott having vasectomy regrets? Happy Thanksgiving! Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/

The one, the only, Ginna Claire Mason Moffet joins the pod this week. Ginna Claire is a dear friend and actress. You may know her as Glinda from Broadway's Wicked or as a Hallmark movie favorite. We talk about how her early love of performing shaped the path that led her to Broadway, and what it’s like stepping into such an iconic role. She also shares behind-the-scenes insight from her work in Hallmark films and the realities of balancing a demanding career with real life. Most meaningfully, how she stays grounded, prioritizes connection, and makes intentional space for her marriage in the middle of a full schedule. Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/

Kaitlin gets reprimanded by a referee. Lindsey Vonn is so old. A new "fan" requests more bare feet on the pod. Scott buys a smart humidifier to heal his cracked lips in the morning. We debate cuss vs. curse vs. swear. Kaitlin’s miraculous dermatologist appointment. RIP Catherine O'Hara...an icon.  Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/  

Hannah and Caroline make their B-Team on-camera debut and recap their harrowing journey to recover Caroline's repossessed (cough...stolen...cough) car. Also, Scott and Kaitlin are on a home redecorating adventure and Caroline is launching a Twitch account. Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/

Scott ruins Kaitlin’s post Christmas joy by trying to be helpful. Emily thinks she’s gotten “lenient” about her home standards. Kaitlin is on a fluoride-free journey, but probably not for the reasons you think. Scott survives a life-altering procedure while Kaitlin heroically assumes the role of “caretaker” and makes sure everyone knows it. Jag-wire. Kaitlin and Scott narrowly miss a pileup caused by a rogue mattress. Also, why are men treated like delicate children in healthcare? Kaitlin had 3 babies!! Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/  

Kaitlin and Scott chat alone this week and they absolutely, 100%, definitely do not talk about New Year’s resolutions. It’s no secret, Kaitlin hates New Year’s resolutions…she publicly denounces them. So they most definitely do not come up....or do they? Welcome to 2026 SWEople! Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/

Catherine Renfro is an author, pastor’s wife, mom, and the National Director of Women’s Evangelism at the North American Mission Board. Catherine is the author of Hope, Hurt, and Healing: Experiencing Jesus in the Wake of Suicide, a book born out of profound loss. Catherine shares the story of losing her brother to suicide and invites us into the aftermath—the grief and the questions she wrestled with. She speaks honestly about questioning God and navigating the long road toward healing. Catherine has used her story to help others who are walking through similar loss. She walks us through how to better show up for friends and loved ones grieving the death of someone they love. This is a hope-filled conversation for anyone who has experienced lossand carries unanswered questions. Catherine's Book, Hope, Hurt, and Healing: https://amzn.to/4hQ0jKf Catherine’s Website: https://www.catherinerenfro.com/ Follow Catherine on Instagram → @catherinerenfro Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Insta

Follow the Chicola sisters on what should've been a normal evening for concert-going Jonas Brothers fans...but spiraled into a night of wreckless decisions, magical elves, and nearly being mauled by an angry mob. Godspeed, SWEople. Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/

Kevan Chandler is an author, speaker, and the voice behind We Carry Kevan and The Hospitality of Need. Kevan lives with muscular atrophy, a rare neuromuscular disease. Through his writing and storytelling he invites people into a countercultural way of seeing need, dependence, and community, not as weakness, but as gift. Kevan shares his story of growing up with muscular atrophy and how, over time, he’s learned that serving others and being served are not opposites—they’re intertwined. We talk about how our needs can become doorways into deeper relationships, the difference between simply asking for help and intentionally inviting people into our need, and how it’s possible to give and receive at the same time. This conversation is thoughtful, challenging, and a reminder that vulnerability around our needs can lead to deeper connection with others. The Hospitality of Need  We Carry Kevan (Book) We Carry Kevan Organization Follow Kevan on Social → @wecarrykevan & @vanchandler  Follow SWE on Instagram → @so

Matt and Emily return from Disney World, and pick up the flu on the way home. Kaitlin, Emily, and Caroline are moments away from seeing the Jonas Brothers. Emily watches the entirety of the Jonas Brothers yule log. Matt and Emily are attempting Christmas cards for the first time this year. The price stamps has gotten completely out of control. Christian YouTube videos are convincing children that they’ll shrink if they forget to pray. Kaitlin develops an aggressive case of the hiccups. Jayce’s music class learns to play the “air recorder.” Kaitlin is glowing and beaming on her latest thyroid journey. Everyone goes off on the American healthcare system and the scam that is health insurance. After much deliberation, Kaitlin and Emily decide it's best to not get Botox…maybe. Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/

Melanie Shankle is a four-time New York Times bestselling author, speaker, and co-host of The Big Boo podcast. Known for blending humor with heartfelt honesty, Melanie has built a career on finding the holy in the everyday and inviting others to do the same. Melanie opens up about her deeply complicated relationship with her mother and the ripple effects that shaped her own story. She shares how she had to confront her trauma head-on, not just to heal herself, but to become the steady, loving mother her daughter needed. We also talk about walking with her daughter Caroline through the emotionally challenging times of high school, and what it looks like to parent with empathy. Here Be Dragons: https://amzn.to/4a7UV3c Melanie’s Website: https://thebigmamablog.com/ Follow Melanie on Instagram → @melanieshankle Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/

The flu has officially taken down the entire Carpenter household, which means this week you’re blessed with the presence of youngest Chicola sister and Lorax fashion icon, Caroline. The topic of conversation? Food, food, and more food, followed by an interpretive children's book reading by Caroline. Hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving! Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else  Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott  https://www.kaitlinelliott.com/

Amy Duggar King is an author, entrepreneur, and television personality from TLC's 19 Kids and Counting. She grew up side-by-side with the Duggars, spent years inside the world the public only saw on TV, and has since become a bold advocate for healing, truth-telling, and breaking generational cycles. We dive into Amy's book, Holy Disruptor, where she reveals the secrets, manipulation, and gaslighting she endured inside the Duggar world and in her own home. She talks honestly about being labeled “Crazy Cousin Amy,” the trauma she carried off-camera, and what it took to finally step into freedom. Amy opens up about her relationship with her grandfather, an emotionally abusive father, and what life was really like on the show. She shares what it was like to live through the fallout of her cousin Josh’s scandals and arrest, the pressure to stay silent, and the cost of finally using her own voice. Most powerfully, Amy shares how she has held onto Jesus through everything. How she rebuilt her faith after being hurt