Process Driven

In this episode, we’re talking about making the work that means the most to us as the maker and how sometimes, we need to take a step back in order to see it. We also talk about a terrific new documentary about the visual effects wizards at Industrial Light & Magic.LINKSTom Jones Tiny Desk Concert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qfw6pon9tAJoshua Jackson Modern Paradox: https://www.joshkjack.com/modern-paradoxDavid Carson (TED Talk): https://www.ted.com/talks/david_carson_design_and_discoveryChris Ashworth: https://ashworth.workRay Gun magazine: https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/ray-gun-music-style-magazine/Light and Magic: https://disneyplusoriginals.disney.com/show/light-and-magicYoung Sherlock Holmes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOsxXi-tu_UWater tendril for Abyss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAFIUuFRkBAJohn Carpenter's The Thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ftmr17M-a4Matte paintings in Star Wars https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/01/the-amazing-matte-paintings-from-star-warsand-their-creat

When we moved into our house in 2016, I told Adrianne how much I couldn’t wait to convert two of the downstairs spaces into studios. “Day one,” I told her. As is often the case with home projects, things don’t always go to plan and day one is now year six and the spaces, while functional, still aren’t done. LINKShttps://blogstatic.io/https://transistor.fm/CONNECT WITH MEWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisSUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.MUSICMusic For Workplaces by Jeffery Saddoris

In this episode, we’re continuing to talk about living a creative life without allowing the algorithm dictate what you see and, more importantly, what you make. We also talk about the often repetitive nature of storytelling in cinema and cite a few exceptions.LINKSCasey NeistatAIAIAI HeadphonesAdam Savage - Golden Book of Amun-RaPropstore AuctionThe Mummy (Trailer)Amazon Rings of PowerNerd of the RingsIllustrated SilmarillionThe Peripheral (IMDb)Under the Banner of Heaven (IMDb)Marc Maron Andrew GarfieldScandinavian Dramas (IMDb)Joseph CampbellThe RevenantCONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography  Twitter: @seantuck  Instagram: @seantuck  YouTube: Sean TuckerCONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisYou can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a review or a rat

The other day, for the first five or so minutes of one of our daily live walk and talks though the forest, I spoke what may have been the most coherent and compelling rant-slash-sermon I’ve ever done but, for some reason, my mic wasn’t working on my phone and none of it went out to the listeners.LINKSMaking Waves The Sound of 007CONNECT WITH MEWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisSUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.MUSICMusic For Workplaces by Jeffery Saddoris

In this episode, Sean and I are talking about the importance of finding your own creative voice and producing the work you want to see in the world, regardless of what you think an audience wants to see from you. LINKSRadiolabThis American LifeSerialAdnan Syed is FreeMy paintingsMarshall MathersCONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography  Twitter: @seantuck  Instagram: @seantuck  YouTube: Sean TuckerCONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisYou can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get

In this episode, Sean and I are talking about what we can do when it’s time to take a step back to regroup and/or refocus, either on our own or with the help of a professional. Plus, this is the last weekly episode of Deep Natter for a while as each of us takes time to get other projects underway.LINKSIzotope RX10The OG App on the App StoreAd-free Instagram client ‘OG App’ taken down, and not by Meta10 Reasons Vero is Slapping Instagram (w/ Peter McKinnon)Vero is Worse Than InstagramSean Tucker: Artists Should be CompetitiveCONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography  Twitter: @seantuck  Instagram: @seantuck  YouTube: Sean TuckerCONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisYou can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you

Full disclosure, there are parts of this episode where Sean and I get a little heavy. There are simply so many things going on in the world that it can sometimes feel overwhelming, leaving us really struggling with what to do and wondering which way to turn. We also talk about the renewed interest in Vero as a potential alternative to Instagram for photographers, especially in light of some of the recent changes on Instagram that prioritize reels over images. I think it’s an interesting conversation all around and I hope you enjoy it.LINKSZencastrRiverside.fmTed GioiaKenny GioiaSamuel Pepys DiaryThe Rest is Politics podcastElon Musk’s NeuralinkKen FolletBen Horne YouTubeVeroCONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography  Twitter: @seantuck  Instagram: @seantuck  YouTube: Sean TuckerCONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisYou can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery

Being creative is hard. Really hard. Actually, let me rephrase that. Being creative isn’t so bad. In fact, if I’m honest about it, the being comes pretty easily for me. As my wife and most of my friends will attest, I have ideas all the time, sometimes great ideas. The ideas themselves aren’t the problem. It’s what to do with them that’s the problem. The doing is where I get stuck, specifically on the business side of the doing. LINKSBen Proudfoot (Twitter)The Greatest Chef in the WorldCONNECT WITH MEWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisSUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.MUSICMusic For Workplaces by Jeffery Saddoris

Failure is something that virtually every creative has faced at some point. In this episode, Sean and I unpack some of the differences between real and perceived failure, and some ways we can respond to each of them without simply giving up. We also talk about the importance of trusting our skills and abilities, especially when we might feel like we’re in over our heads. LINKSDavid Bowie - China GirlSpielberg documentaryThe FablemansCONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuck  Instagram: @seantuck  YouTube: Sean TuckerCONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisYou can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this

In this episode, Sean and I are talking about pivoting when a project just isn’t taking off or going in the direction we want it to. Sean also shares some thoughts on revisiting and possibly even updating a past project, inspired in part by conversations he’s had with people in his photographic community.CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography  Twitter: @seantuck  Instagram: @seantuck  YouTube: Sean TuckerCONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisYou can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following l

In this episode, Sean and I geek out a little over lighting and talk a bit about how shallow depth of field can often be the low hanging fruit in photography. We also talk about a few examples of our favorite film editing that refuses to simply hold the audience by the hand to explain everything that’s happening in the narrative.LINKS24mm: Focal Length Series35mm: Focal Length Series50mm: Focal Length Series85mm: Focal Length SeriesBaz Luhrmann’s ElvisEdge of TomorrowPharrell Williams - Freedom13 Minutes to the MoonIteration 65: When the Teacher DisappearsCONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography  Twitter: @seantuck  Instagram: @seantuck  YouTube: Sean TuckerCONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisYou can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a review or a rat

In this episode, on the back of Sean’s recent meetup in London, we’re talking about the social energy it often requires for introverts to engage with other people and the toll simply being out in the world can sometimes take. We also talk about the importance of producing work that allows an audience to meet and engage with both the maker and the work where they are.LINKSThe Warhol DiariesStuart WaplingtonDeep Natter w/Ben HorneSimon BaxterOfficial site of Stephen FryCONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography  Twitter: @seantuck  Instagram: @seantuck  YouTube: Sean TuckerCONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisYou can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.MUSICHigh Li

In this episode, I’m joined by large format landscape photographer Ben Horne and we’re talking about some of the challenges and considerations around creating products for an audience and why print still and maybe always will be better than looking at work on a screen. LINKSDaniel Milnor: https://shifter.mediaTyndell: https://www.tyndellphotographic.comAndrew Baruffi: https://www.andrewbaruffiphoto.comMixam: https://mixam.co.ukDaido Tokyo: https://www.moriyamadaido.com/en/bibliography/CONNECT WITH BENWebsite: https://benhorne.com  Twitter: @benhorne  Instagram: @benhorne  YouTube: Ben HorneCONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisYou can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.MUSICH

Last week, I took the train into DC to visit the National Gallery of Art, which is by far one of my favorite places in the city. Regardless of the show or exhibition, I always come home energized and inspired. Sometimes, I’ll even go down just to sit in the “Rothko Room” for an hour — and I know the official name is Tower 1 of the East Building, but I think Rothko Room sounds much more poetic. On this particular trip, I was there to see The Double, a show that a friend who works at the gallery called “life changing” — which is saying something considering she’s one of the top paper conservators in the world and has seen some pretty incredible work over the course of her career. The show really is fantastic and features work by some of my favorite artists, including Frank Stella and Robert Rauschenberg; and it begins with a pair of American flags by Jasper Johns displayed opposite Double America by Glenn Ligon.LINKSNational Gallery of ArtRothko RoomThe DoubleDouble AmericaRothko: The Color Field PaintingsEpiso

In this episode, Sean finds out he’s got scammers posing as him online and we have a fascinating conversation about a new AI called MidJourney that has artists and photographers scrambling to figure out how and why to use it. LINKSKitbogaJim BrowningScott DetwilerMidJourney AICrow imagesHateful Eight 70mmRoger Deakins Digital vs FilmCONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography  Twitter: @seantuck  Instagram: @seantuck  YouTube: Sean TuckerCONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisYou can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and fi

In this episode, Sean gives me some valuable advice for starting my own YouTube channel, which leads into a terrific discussion around the importance of identifying what motivates us to make. Plus, we gush a little about Justin Hawkins. LINKSShot DeckJoey LAnnie Leibovitz photographing Keith RichardsSimon BaxterJoe CornishMidJourneyJustin Hawkins Rides AgainCONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography  Twitter: @seantuck  Instagram: @seantuck  YouTube: Sean TuckerCONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisYou can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing plat

In this episode, Friend of the Show Maarten Rots joins me from his mobile studio in the Netherlands to talk about how a space can have an affect on what kind of work we produce in it. We also talk about the difficulty in breaking out of creative habits and the challenge of when to take our work in a different direction. CONNECT WITH MAARTENWebsite: https://www.maartenrots.nlMarch & Rock magazine: March & Rock magazineInstagram: @maartenrots  CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisSubstack: https://jefferysaddoris.substack.comYou can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific

The other day, a friend of mine texted me a link to a podcast, along with a single sentence that read, “If I could be a small fraction of the photographer Sally Mann is, it would really be something.” Now, this friend is a terrific photographer but, like so many of us, he sometimes gets stuck in the rut of comparison. I get it. I really do. Sally Mann is an iconic photographer, but one of the most challenging—and I think harmful—things we can do to ourselves as artists is to unreasonably compare ourselves and our work to others.Question:Do you compare yourself or your work to others? If so, how does it affect the work you make?LINKSSally Mann : https://www.sallymann.com/Robert Rauschenberg: https://www.wikiart.org/en/robert-rauschenbergDavid Carson: http://www.davidcarsondesign.com/Shepard Fairey: https://obeygiant.com/Bastille: https://www.bastillebastille.com/Quarter Past Midnight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1VzzNbfPaMJohn Dos Passos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dos_PassosNick Hornby: https://e

In this episode, Sean and I are talking about how some of the evolutions in technology will impact the way we make art and, in some cases, blur the line of creativity between humans and machines. We also trade links to some of the things each of us has found interesting over the past week or so.LINKSDjo - Official WebsiteJustin Hawkins Rides AgainGuess the Lighting (via FStoppers)Yousuf Karsh portrait of HemingwayGeorge HurrellAudrey Hepburn by Jack CardiffPlaton portrait of President ClintonBaumgartner RestorationRaul CantuJoshua Davis StudiosWelcome to Processing!CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography  Twitter: @seantuck  Instagram: @seantuck  YouTube: Sean TuckerCONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisYou can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a revie

In this episode, Sean and I have an honest and, at times, revealing discussion around how comparing our work to others can often lead to creative paralysis. We also talk about the importance of finding an accountability buddy who can give us the support and feedback we need—whether it’s positive or negative—that can really help us move forward.LINKSDalton Campbell on Process DrivenAlex Webb: The Suffering of LightGregory Crewdson SubstackFan Ho - via Independent PhotographerAlec Soth Masterclass on MagnumPracticing the Presence of God by Brother LawrenceCONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photography  Twitter: @seantuck  Instagram: @seantuck  YouTube: Sean TuckerCONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.com  Twitter: @jefferysaddoris  Instagram: @jefferysaddorisYou can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.SUPPORTLeave a review or a ratin