Young Adulting

After a highly requested (micro) deep-dive into Normal People (we loved the show maybe even more than the book!), we chat with Jules Von Hep! Jules is a celebrity tanning expert and the founder of the (clean! vegan!) line Isle of Paradise. We chat with him about how quarantine is going in the UK and then move along to his career and how he founded Isle of Paradise.  He walks us through his career path and how he got to where he is today (he’s tanned everyone from Kate Moss to Kendall Jenner!),how + why he started Isle of Paradise, and of course all his best self-tanning advice - answering all of your self tanning questions and providing helpful tips for first timers. But the best part of the interview was all of the incredible life advice. Jules talks about saying no (his advice here is so good), navigating negativity, and how to be more body confident!   More Jules! @julesvonhep @theisleofparadise E-book: Get Body Posi by Jules Von Hep Podcast: Jules and Sarah Products mentioned: Isle of Paradise line at

In today’s episode, we polled you to come up with a big grab bag of questions. We cover a wide range of topics from college life to cooking (Becca’s carbonara!). We also talk about how we maintain our privacy (spoiler alert: we’re in charge!) and all sorts of other things. Will Becca ever get a dog? Has Grace always been a cat person? Does she walk Tyrion? How did we meet? We got a ton of podcast related questions so we also give a behind the scenes look at the process of creating Bad on Paper. This is a fun episode - pour a glass of wine and come hang out with us! Products mentioned: Plush Knit Joggers Old Navy   Obsessions: Outerbanks TV series Daily Harvest Never Have I Ever on Netflix   Books: Feels Like Falling by Kristy Woodson Harvey The Last House Guest by Megan Miranda The Heir Affair by Heather Cocks & Jessica Morgan Untamed by Glennon Doyle The Guest List by Lucy Foley Don’t You Forget About Me by  Mhairi McFarlane If I Never Met You by  Mhairi McFarlane Who’s That Girl? by  Mhairi McFar

Yesterday we talked about In Five Years by Rebecca Serle and today she is joining us to give a behind the scenes look at how she wrote the book! Rebecca is an author and television writer in NYC and LA, she has written 6 novels and co-developed the hit television adaptation of her YA series, Famous in Love. We talk about the differences between screenwriting and writing a novel (and why her heart stays with books!) - and the process of adapting a book into a TV show. We talk about the overarching role of fate and free will as themes in all of her books, and where she draws inspiration. Rebecca also answers our questions about hair routine, who would be on her Dinner List, favorite books, favorite authors, and what she has been reading.    More Rebecca: rebeccaserle.com @rebecca_serle on instagram @rebecca_serle on twitter     Rebecca’s Books: When You Were Mine The Edge of Falling Famous in Love Truly Madly Famously The Dinner List In Five Years   Favorite Authors: Sally Rooney Curtis Enfeld Emma Straub

This month, we read In Five Years by Rebecca Serle. We both absolutely loved this book and read it in under 24 hours. Before diving into the book, we do our usual quarantine catch up. We are both healthy, staying busy, and Tyrion (Grace’s cat) seems to have developed a newfound love for Zoom calls.   This book is about best friends, Dannie and Bella. Dannie is a little bit uptight and is one of those women who always has a plan and knows exactly what she wants. Meanwhile, Bella is a bit more flighty and romantic. On the night that Dannie gets engaged to her long-time boyfriend, David, she has an extremely vivid dream of where her life will be in 5 years. She’s in a different apartment, with a different (and sexy) man. We then see how the next five years play out and what happens. Dannie is jilted when she meets Bella’s new boyfriend Greg - it’s the man from her dream! Bella falls ill and a series of other events happen to turn Dannie’s life upside down. She ends up exactly where the dream predicted - discover

Is it just us, or is quarantine making home chefs of us all?! In this episode we share our favorite recipes, favorite food inspiration accounts to follow, and our personal pantry and grocery shopping staples. We have some strong opinions on condiments, our panic buys,and quarantine cooking fails. We also talk about our cooking bucket list, the best things we’ve made during isolation, and where we want to go the moment the ban is lifted.   Favorite Food Instagram Accounts: @lizadams @definedish @alisoneroman @brunchboys @dennistheprescott @howsweeteats @grossypelosi @mollybaz @whatsgabycooking @meghandono   Food Blogs: What’s Gaby Cooking New York Times Cooking (and Sam Sifton’s weekly newsletter) Bon appétit Smitten Kitchen   Cookbooks: Nothing Fancy by Alison Roman Dining in by Alison Roman It’s all Good by Gwyneth Paltrow (& Julia Turshen) It’s all Easy by Gwyneth Paltrow Salt Fat Acid Heat By Samin Nosrat Cravings by Chrissy Tiegan Oh She Glows Cookbook Salad for President Cook Beautiful By Athena

Today, we poured ourselves a glass of wine and play a remote game of FMK (Fuck, Marry, Kill) with YOUR prompts! But first, we catch up on how we are holding up in quarantine. We are definitely a mix of adjusting and feeling trapped, but over all we are doing alright.   This episode is a weird one and we are into it. We go through all the important categories… books, meals, celebs, TV characters. Becca kills breakfast (and short men?) and Grace makes a surprising choice when it comes to the Younger cast. Also: who knew the hardest questions would be about food?? We hope you enjoy and are inspired to prompt your friends… we highly recommend setting up a FMK Zoom with your own friends!   Podcasts Mentioned: Gee Thanks Just Bought It   Obsessions: Amazon Lazy Susan OXO Good Grips Containers Cecedupraz face mask   Instagram: @ryan.heffington @pippyeats   Books we are starting: The Lies That Bind by Emily Giffin (out june 2) No Filter By Sarah Frier The Last Magician by Lisa Maxwell   April Book Club: In

Stacey Abrams, needs no introduction but we’ll give her one anyway. She’s a New York times bestselling author, non profit CEO, and political leader.. and today she joins us to answer all our questions about voting rights: an incredibly important issue that we didn’t know NEARLY enough about before this interview.   After losing her 2018 Georgia gubernatorial race, Abrams created Fair Fight to ensure that all Americans were able to vote and to have their votes counted. We talk to her about the different forms of voter suppression and how this disproportionately affects people of color, women, the elderly, and college students. We also discuss how we can make sure we have a safe and fair election in 2020.   About Bad on Politics: Bad on Politics is a monthly bonus episode where we invite a guest expert to help us break down a political topic. We get it, politics is confusing and there's a anxiety-inducing amount of news coverage to follow. So, we're here to ask the "dumb" questions so you don't have to. We want

In today’s episode, we chatted with Sallie Krawcheck (founder and CEO of Ellevest) about the relationship women have with investing. Sallie has been one of our dream guests for some time now and we both learned so much from our conversation. Sallie explains the difference between the wage gap and the wealth gap for women, and the different ways that women spend, save, and manage money. Sallie gives us advice about saving vs. investing, how to get lower interest rates, common mistakes, and how to be more critical about where your money is invested. We also get personal, talking marriage, prenup meltdowns, educating your children about money, and more!   More Sallie: ellevest.com app or site @salliekrawcheck on insta. twitter, etc.   Article mentioned: Buy the dip   Podcasts Mentioned: A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica Sallie’s ep of JVN podcast   Obsessions: Oh She Glows Tomato Soup (from this cookbook) Damages Playing the game Risk online Night sleep mask   Instagram: @sciene.sam @grossypelos

We couldn’t stop thinking (or talking) about this book and our friend Jess, so we asked friend of the pod, Katie Sturino to join us to discuss Jessica Simpson’s memoir, Open Book. Forget what you think you know about Jessica Simpson (seriously, none of us were superfans or even really fans before this book, but we sure as hell are now!). Her book dives deep into her childhood, music career, relationships, and struggles with addiction. Needless to say,  we could not get enough! We discuss the juicy celebrity goss, body image issues, family dynamics, and more in this ep. Seriously, if you haven’t read (or listened to this book!), we can’t recommend it enough. Looking forward to hearing your hot takes, join us in the FB group to discuss! And make sure to subscribe to Katie’s podcast, Boob Sweat, and follow her on Instagram @katiesturino.   ----   Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and her blog TheStripe.com and

First of all, it’s our 2 year podcasting anniversary! In today’s ep we’re sharing all our best quarantine distractions and recommendations. Between all the family FaceTimes, Zoom happy hours, Powerpoint parties, cooking, organizing, and checking in with family and friends it’s easy to forget to keep a routine and take care of yourself too! We want to help by giving some light hearted and fun ways to lose yourself (in a book, tv show, movie, podcast, etc), even if it’s only for a little while.    We hope you all stay safe and healthy… come join us in the Facebook group to talk about YOUR favorite distractions and what’s keeping you sane(ish).   Currently Reading: The Authenticity Project by Clare Pooley Open Book by Jessica Simpson (especially the audiobook) All the Pretty Things by Emily Arsenault The Jetsetters by Amanda Eyre Ward (Becca didn’t like) Just a Girl Standing in Front of a Boy by Lucy Ann Holmes     Becca’s recs! The Idea of You by Robinne Lee Throne of Glass Series (7 books) by Sarah J. Maas

Our March Book Club Pick is I’ll Give you the Sun by Jandy Nelson. Before we get into the book, we talk a little bit about Coronavirus and how we’re feeling. This book is the perfect quarantine read as it feels a bit like a cozy warm hug.  The book is the story of Jude and Noah - twins who were once inseparable, but have now grown apart. Via alternating timelines, we learn the heartbreaking reasons that this has happened. Noah tells the story of their younger years, meanwhile Jude’s timeline takes place three years later when they are 16. It’s magically written and a feel good read… we can’t recommend it enough!   Stay safe and healthy, and come join us in the Facebook group to talk about the book!   Products mentioned:   Obsessions: Plush Knit Joggers for women from Old Navy (Pandemic Pants) Little Fires Everywhere on Hulu Tie Dye Sweatsuit from PJ Salvage (sold out, unfortunately, but similar here) Ugg Slippers   Instagram:  @goldfishsmiles @hithapalepu @ashleyspivey @rouge_18 @aminatou @alisoneroman  

Alisha Ramos, Founder and CEO of Girls Night In, and self proclaimed indoor kid/introvert,  joins us to share her journey to create her company and the ways her business has changed as it grows. We talk about starting and scaling a business, work/life balance, and its challenges as a female founder. We dish on our self care pet peeves (we all have them!), our definitions of self care, and what is next for GNI. We also talk of our love of a good newsletter and Alisha’s idea of the perfect night in.   Favorite Newsletters: Girls’ Night In A Thing or Two from Claire & Erica What To Cook This Week from The New York Times Internet Brunch Mollie Chen’s newsletter The Broadsheet The Ann Friedman Weekly Mary Laura Phillpott’s newsletter Jasmine Guillory’s newsletter The Stripe Newsletter (Subscribe at bottom) Five Smart Reads newsletter from Hitha Palepu Chips + Dips Newsletter   Obsessions: Alison Roman Dining In: Sour Cream Flatbread recipe Plush Knit Joggers for women from Old Navy   Instagram:  @marysumm

Kelley Robinson, Executive Director of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund joins us to answer all of our questions about the state of reproductive rights. Kelley explains some common misconceptions around Planned Parenthood, and then helps us to understand the spike in abortion restrictions that happened in 2019. We also dig into the abortion case currently in front of the supreme court, and talk about other cases being heard by the Supreme Court this year. Then we talk about Title X and dive into how reproductive rights figure into the 2020 election. About Bad on Politics: Bad on Politics is a monthly bonus episode where we invite a guest expert to help us break down a political topic. We get it, politics is confusing and there's a anxiety-inducing amount of news coverage to follow. So, we're here to ask the "dumb" questions so you don't have to. We want to break things down so you can understand what's going on and make an informed opinion. For more info: Planned Parenthood Action Fund website PPAF Trump Tr

In this episode we dive into our personal reading histories and talk about our reading lives. We share stories about how we became readers, our favorite childhood books - Sweet Valley High, Babysitters Club, R.L. Stein, etc. Although we have different reading routines, ways we organize books, and views on putting a book down (to DNF or not to DNF, that is the question!) - we can agree that vacation reading is the best reading. We share our favorite recent books, our process for vetting the books for our monthly book club, and the  books we think are overrated. If you ever have trouble finding new books, or picking something to read we list our top ways to find new reads.    Podcast mentioned: Grace & Becca on The SSR podcast discussing Sweet Valley High Book #1   Obsessions: Alison Roman’s Tiny Salty Chocolate Cookies (From her cookbook Nothing Fancy) Corgi Pods silicone air pods case   Instagram: (Authors!) @emmastraub @kathrinemcgee @kristywharvey @andreadunlop @lindseykelk @jasminespics   Books

In this episode we talk clean beauty with the founder of Follain, Tara Foley. Tara, a self-described “activist-at-heart” shares with us her journey from discovering clean beauty to opening Follain. We dive deep on what clean really means and the regulation around the terms natural and clean (spoiler: there is none). She also gives us her top ingredients to watch out for. Our favorite part of the episode, though, has to be Tara’s amazing product recs. We chat about everything from budget-friendly to high-tech clean beauty recs and she gives us specific suggestions for both dry skin and acne-prone skin routines. If you’re thinking about using more clean products, Tara makes that sound a whole lot less daunting and this episode is the perfect place to start!   More Tara: Follain stores and Follain.com Products are also sold at Anthropologie & Ulta Instagram: @tcofoley   Products mentioned: Follain Refillable Everything Soap Reverie hair products (specifically the hair milk & heat protectant) Inner

Followers by Megan Angelo is a thought provoking take on influencer culture. The book alternates between the present day story of Orla and Floss living in modern day New York with their own reality TV show; and Marlow, 35 years from now living in a town called Constellation where influencers have become government employees and have their lives broadcasted 23/7. It’s sharp and witty (and a bit of a cautionary tale - when does sharing go TOO FAR?) This book is a great conversation starter and will take you on a wild ride from New York to California to a futuristic (internet-free) colony called Atlantis. We couldn’t put this book down and are still thinking about it weeks later!   Obsessions: Under Armour Eclipse Sports bra (not the one with the zip) Cadbury Creme Eggs Love is Blind on Netflix The Outsider on HBO Urban Stems x East Olivia flowers   Instagram: @eastolivia   Books: You Are Not Alone by Green Hendricks and Sarah Pekkanen Our Stop by Laura Jane Williams Would Like to Meet by Rachel Winters Tw

Taylor Lorenz is a journalist at the New York Times covering Internet Culture. In our conversation, she maps out the jobs that led her to where she is today and how she developed her own beat. We also delve into everything going on on the internet: from influencers to trolls to TikTok. Whether you’re looking to get current (what is The Hype House?) or are an internet culture vulture with strong feelings on Caroline Calloway, we cover it all in our conversation.   More Taylor Lorenz: twitter: @taylorlorenz instagram: @taylorlorenz tiktok: @taylorlorenz   Taylor’s Favorite Journalists to follow: Check out her list on twitter!   Articles mentioned: Podcast Groups Aren’t Just About Podcasts High Schools to TikTok: We’re Catching Feelings Hype House and The Los Angeles TikTok Mansion Gold Rush What It’s Like To Be The Parent of a Social Media Star The Original Renegade   Products Mentioned: Dyson Airwrap Amazon makeup brush cleaning mat Beauty Blender: Blender Cleanser Huda Beauty Liquid Matte Lipstic

In this (highly requested) episode we are talking about being single in your thirties! We answer all of your questions about dating, and give the best advice we can from our own experiences. This episode is broken into four parts: why being single in your thirties is actually pretty great, how to stay positive, how to make new friends (and keep the old), and all things DATING (another hot topic). We share our weirdest dates, our favorite apps (and when to delete them), ways to meet people IRL, thoughts on freezing our eggs, and managing dating app burnout. If there’s one thing you take away from this episode, it’s the importance of building a life you truly love - one that feels good to YOU… with our without a partner!   Podcasts: Girls Gotta Eat Podcast U Up? Podcast   Obsessions: Cheer - Netflix Serum Stick - Tatcha   Instagram: @clairemazur @ericacerulo @charlidamelio   Books: Know My Name By Chanel Miller The Two Lives of Lydia Bird by Josie Silver Allison Roman Nothing Fancy Cookbook The Right Swi

This is hands down one of our favorite interviews yet! Erica Cerulo and Claire Mazur, founders of Of a Kind (RIP!), join us to talk about founding and running a business with your friend. We dive into how they split their roles in the business, travel styles, and hiring a management coach (AKA a business therapist). We also chat about how they’re processing the closure of their company and what’s next.    Then we turn to the subject of motherhood, and have an incredibly candid conversation about how Claire grappled with whether or not she wanted children, how Erica has defended her choice not to have children, and how they’ve supported each other and stayed close despite their disparate decisions. We wrap up with some recommendations for everything from skincare to podcasts to books.   More Claire + Erica: @clairemazur @ericacerulo Claireanderica.com (sign up for their newsletter here!) A Thing or Two Podcast Work Wife: the Power of Female Friendship to Drive Successful Businesses Refinery29: Why I Don’t

This month we read Good Girls Lie by J.T. Ellison. This book combines some of our favorite things: rich unsupervised teens at a boarding school, secret societies… and murder. Ash is an outcast, relocating from England to attend boarding school at the prestigious Goode School in Virginia. Her parents have passed away, she has an abusive past with her father, and she definitely has a lot of secrets. When she gets tapped for the Ivy Bound secret society, things go haywire. Her roommate dies and now we are trying to figure out who did it and why. Even though we found (nearly) every character to be deeply unlikable, we still really enjoyed the book. We got to rehash our love for secret societies (and the movie The Skulls). Grace reveals what happens in her sorority’s initiation rituals... and that she doesn’t like Gilmore Girls (gasp!).   Obsessions: Amazon Weighted Blanket Grace’s Gravity Blanket Blog Post Grace & Frankie Season 6 on Netflix Virgin River  Jexi (movie) 1917 (movie) Healthy Chicken Tenders Re