Vox Podcast With Mike Erre

Discernment: Cruciformity is Active, Not Passive. On this episode of the Voxology podcast, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford focus on discernment in faith, the essence of Christian identity, and the importance of critiquing ideologies rather than individuals. They emphasize the need for community engagement and humanizing conversations across divides, particularly in the context of immigration and societal issues. Further, Tim and Mike explore the complexities of homelessness, systemic issues, and the role of faith in addressing societal challenges. They discuss the importance of understanding the root causes of homelessness, the church's responsibility in promoting human flourishing, and the significance of inclusivity at Jesus' table. The dialogue also delves into the church's political involvement, the concept of cruciformity, and the challenges of navigating emotional overload while advocating for justice. Ultimately, they emphasize the need for a Christ-like approach to engagement in the world. "Lean In" with M

What does leadership shaped by the cross really look like in today's church—and how far have we drifted from it? Mike and Tim continue the Cruciformity Series with a raw, revealing, and intensely personal reflection on their own experiences with American evangelical leadership culture. From megachurch strategy to influence-based platforms, they unpack how conventional models of "biblical leadership" often mirror corporate America more than Christ. This episode challenges deeply ingrained assumptions about success, authority, platform, and power, and proposes a radically different path: cruciform leadership, rooted in humility, weakness, and the relentless pursuit of others' flourishing. Mike shares his personal struggle of unlearning old paradigms and embracing a leadership ethos shaped by Jesus' downward trajectory from divinity to servanthood. It's a must-listen for pastors, churchgoers, and anyone navigating the tension between faithfulness and influence. Key Takeaways: • What is Cruciform Leadership? – Ho

How the church responds when Jesus is co-opted by political power, and what it means to faithfully resist using cruciform love. In this latest installment of the Exile Series, Mike and Tim explore recent headlines where government leaders invoke Christianity as a means to assert national identity and justify coercive policies. Rather than offering partisan critique, they unpack the deeper spiritual crisis at work—when the name of Jesus is taken in vain to baptize authoritarianism and cultural dominance. Rooted in Walter Brueggemann's prophetic framework of "reality, grief, and hope," Mike and Tim lead a passionate discussion around resisting empire the way Jesus did—through embodied love, not religious spectacle. They revisit core biblical ideas of the church living as exiles and dive deeply into the last days of Jesus' life—highlighting not just the fact that Jesus died on the cross, but how he lived and loved on it. From forgiveness to hospitality to non-retaliation, Jesus models a radical way of confrontin

How reclaiming a teachable spirit can radically transform our faith, our churches, and our relationships with those we often see as "the other." Mike and Tim welcome theologian, pastor, and author A.J. Swoboda to unpack his latest book, The Teachable Spirit: The Virtue of Learning from Strangers, Enemies, and Absolutely Anyone, as well as a powerful call for intellectual humility and curiosity within Christian community. Together, they explore why Christians should be the most curious people in the world—yet are often seen as some of the least teachable—and how engaging others (even those we vehemently disagree with) can be a deeply Christlike act of discipleship and hospitality. Key Takeaways: • The Cost of Curiosity – Why a teachable spirit is more important than ever in a polarized culture, and how refusing to learn keeps Christians stuck in cycles of fear and pride. • Learning from Enemies – How sitting at the feet of someone you disagree with can strengthen faith, not threaten it—and why it's an essentia

Unpacking the deep narrative threads that make Jesus's death not just inevitable, but essential to our human story, Mike and Tim dive into the costs of sin, how death is a consequence—not simply a punishment—and what Jesus's crucifixion really reveals about God's nature. This Good Friday reflection brings clarity to questions we've inherited or sidestepped: Why did Jesus have to die? Why that way? And what's the deeper biblical thread connecting Eden, the tabernacle, and the cross? Follow this continuing journey through the Cruciformity Series as we reframe our view of atonement theology through the lens of relational, embodied love rather than transactional debt. This episode traces the arc from Genesis to Jesus, highlighting scripture's subversive beauty and its world-building wisdom that invites us to reimagine what it means to live—and die—in union with Christ. Key Takeaways: • Death as Consequence, Not Retribution – Sin introduces decay, loss, and exile from creation's eternal purpose. Jesus, in true sol

How does understanding the difference between what the Bible describes and what it prescribes shape the way we live, lead, and love today? Mike Erre and Tim Stafford kick off their new Christianity 101 Series with an in-depth—and often hilarious—conversation that lays the groundwork for how the Voxology community approaches Scripture, biblical authority, and spiritual formation. Responding to an Instagram post that claims "genocide, slavery, and sexual assault are all biblical," Mike and Tim dismantle modern misuses of the word "biblical," explore how cruciformity shapes biblical interpretation, and offer a counter-cultural vision for how the church can embody a radically different way of living. From Roman status systems to communion cups and Sunday merch, it's all on the table in this deep dive into discipleship, Scripture, and what it means to follow Jesus today. Key Takeaways: • Prescriptive vs Descriptive Bible Reading – Why understanding the difference is crucial to avoid misapplying Scripture and perpe

How a cruciform vision of faith challenges cultural Christianity obsessed with dominance, political power, and exclusion. Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and special guest Dr. Timothy Gombis kick off a new Cruciformity Series by wrestling with the relational and theological tensions between two distinctly different expressions of Christianity. They dive into Gombis' definition of a cruciform (cross-shaped) life, the way Paul consistently connects theology to social justice, and what faithful biblical interpretation actually looks like in polarized times. This episode brings incisive insight and honest reflection into how Christians should engage others who claim Christ while promoting ideologies antithetical to his way. How do we differentiate between authentic discipleship and a power-driven counterfeit? When is it time to lovingly confront, and when is it time to focus on being a joyful presence even amid disagreement? Key Takeaways: • Understanding Cruciformity – Drawing from Philippians 2, Dr. Gombis defines cru

Unpacking the intersection of economics, race, and faith, Mike and Tim sit down with historian and theologian Dr. Malcolm Foley to explore the dangerous roots of racism in greed and how Christian communities can resist the power of money—biblically referred to as "Mammon." With incisive insight, emotional clarity, and a sense of urgency, Malcolm walks us through the key thesis of his new book, "The Anti-Greed Gospel: Why the Love of Money is the Root of Racism and How the Church Can Create a New Way Forward." This challenging yet hopeful episode invites listeners to reimagine how the church can actively defang race as a category of oppression by confronting institutional greed, building communities of economic justice, and aligning more deeply with the Kingdom vision of Jesus. Key Takeaways: • Greed as the Engine of Racism – Race didn't create injustice; it was manufactured to justify domination and economic exploitation. • Defanging Race – Why we must neither ignore nor celebrate race, but neutralize its pow

Celebrating 500 episodes and nearly 10 years of bold conversations, Mike and Tim pause to reflect on the Voxology journey and address a growing burden: the deepening divide between competing versions of Christianity in American culture. This milestone episode explores how one branch of Christianity has co-opted the language of Jesus to justify nationalism, violence, and power, while another remains rooted in the cruciform way of Jesus—marked by humility, sacrifice, and enemy-love. Mike and Tim unpack why this distinction matters now more than ever, emphasizing the urgent need to return to the center—Christ himself—and discern truth from distortion. Through heartfelt lament, cultural critique, and biblical exploration, this conversation brings clarity, challenge, and hope for a faith community seeking to resist cultural idolatry and embody the real Jesus in these confusing times. Key Takeaways: • Two Competing Christianities – Recognizing that not every representation of "Christian" is congruent with the life

How do we truly love others, and what does it mean to love God with our whole being? In this rich and deeply engaging conversation with New Testament scholar Dr. Nijay Gupta, Mike and Tim explore the heart of Paul's theology of love, as captured in Nijay's newest book, "The Affections of Christ Jesus." Tackling questions like "Can we love someone we don't like?" and "Is empathy a sin?", they unpack the biblical roots of love, the emotional texture behind divine commands, and why reducing love to cold obedience misses the point entirely. Rooted in Deuteronomy, Philippians, and an astute understanding of emotional theory, Nijay reclaims love not as sentiment or robotic duty, but as an embodied, whole-person orientation empowered by attachment, compassion, and relationship. Whether it's God's jealous love, the fear of the Lord, or cultivating inner affections toward enemies and neighbors alike, this episode beautifully bridges emotional intelligence with biblical theology. Key Takeaways: • Love is Whole-Personed

How the biblical blueprint for justice offers a practical and powerful vision for reimagining community, equity, and generosity. In this compelling episode of the Exile Series, Mike and Tim are joined by longtime friend and justice advocate Sarah Pecan Driver to explore what it means to faithfully pursue the restoration of shalom. Drawing deeply from Scripture and her 26 years of domestic and international experience in social policy, Sarah unpacks six biblical pillars of justice—from economic resets to bias-free systems—and shows how these ancient practices still challenge and inspire modern expressions of church, business, and civic life. Key Takeaways: • Justice as the Restoration of Shalom – Why justice is far more than fighting injustice; it's about building real communities of equity, rest, and connection grounded in God's design. • The Six Pillars of Biblical Justice – Sarah unpacks justice themes from Leviticus and Deuteronomy, including Sabbath rest, economic resets (Jubilee), gleaning laws, and inte

How reframing grace as a radical, social equalizer challenges cultural power systems and reshapes the church's role in a fractured world. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford continue the Exile Series by unpacking how American nationalism distorts the purpose of the church—and how the book of Ephesians offers a subversive vision of identity rooted in Christ, not country. Drawing on theologians like Lee Camp, Caitlin Schess, and John Barclay, this episode critically examines how partisan politics twist scripture and why grace flattens power hierarchies, replacing tribal superiority with true siblinghood in the body of Christ. Key Takeaways: • Grace as Equalizer – Paul's use of grace in Ephesians 2 goes beyond personal salvation; it subverts social hierarchies and removes grounds for boasting between groups (Jew/Gentile, male/female, slave/free). • The Myth of Christian Nationalism – Examining how Reagan-era rhetoric and modern political movements hijack biblical imagery (like "a city on a hill") to assign God's promises

How the early church responded to injustice offers a roadmap for communities struggling to embody Christ's vision of transformation and Shalom today. Mike and Tim dive deep into real examples from Acts, 1 Corinthians, and Galatians to reveal how the early Christians addressed systemic injustice across ethnic, economic, and cultural lines—while pointing to what it means to live out political engagement by being the church. Referencing powerful historical texts and contemporary critiques, including a provocative new book titled "The Sin of Empathy," this episode critiques legalistic, overly individualized versions of the gospel and recasts Christian political action through the lens of community justice, restorative practices, and the call to be instruments of peace. Key Takeaways: • Empathy Isn't a Sin—Apathy Might Be – Critiquing reactionary movements that label empathy sinful, while unpacking what biblical care really looks like. • Justice as an Embodied Witness – From caring for widows in Acts 6 to confront

Exploring how to keep hope alive in overwhelming times and the church's role in restoring Shalom and unity amidst despair. Unpacking Ephesians 2, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford discuss practical ways to overcome feelings of helplessness by engaging in community action and embracing a holistic understanding of sin and salvation. Key Takeaways: Finding Hope Through Action – How engaging in local community efforts can alleviate feelings of despair and helplessness. Restoring Shalom – Understanding the church's role in reconciling divided groups and promoting unity, as illustrated in Ephesians 2. Holistic Redemption – Embracing a comprehensive view of sin and salvation that includes individual, communal, and systemic restoration. Navigating Despair – Strategies to avoid becoming overwhelmed by news cycles and societal issues, focusing on being informed rather than inflamed. Resources Mentioned: Scandalous Witness by Lee Camp – [Link] Ephesians 2 – [Link] Vox Podcast Non-ference Details – [Link] Join the conversat

Exploring how reframing sin and salvation as communal realities can transform our understanding of justice, community, and the mission of the church in today's world, Mike and Tim dive deep into the implications of being a community of justice and shalom while continuing their Exile Series. Key Takeaways: • Sin and Salvation as Communal Concepts – Understanding the importance of viewing sin and salvation beyond individualism, emphasizing the corporate dimensions within the church. • The Role of the Church as New Humanity – Discussing Paul's metaphor of the body of Christ and how it calls us to eradicate hierarchies and promote justice within our communities. • Reevaluating Missions and the Great Commission – Critiquing traditional approaches to evangelism and missions, focusing on the communal nature of the gospel and the importance of healthy, mutual relationships. • Current Events and the Church's Response – Analyzing recent developments like anti-Christian bias task forces and Bible reading mandates, and h

Explore how recognizing sin and salvation as communal realities empowers the church to become a beacon of justice and shalom in a divided world. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the deep-seated issues within modern Christianity, examining the dichotomy between individualistic and communal understandings of faith. They discuss how embracing a communal approach to sin and salvation calls us to prioritize justice, mercy, and empathy as core elements of following Jesus. Key Takeaways: • The Communal Nature of Sin – Understanding how sin disrupts not only our relationship with God but also fractures community and societal structures. • Salvation as Corporate Restoration – Exploring how salvation restores communities, calling the church to embody justice and shalom as integral to the gospel. • Embracing Justice and Mercy – Discussing the role of the church in advocating for the marginalized, including immigrants and the LGBTQ+ community, and how mercy and empathy should guide our actions. • The Church as an Al

Explore how Christians can resist the allure of political power, understand the biblical call to live as exiles, and rediscover the transformative impact of being the church in a polarized society. Key Takeaways: • Resisting Political Idolatry – Understanding the dangers of aligning Christianity with political parties and leaders. • Embracing Exile – How the biblical concept of exile shapes the church's posture in today's world. • Living the One Another Commands – The importance of internal transformation and community practices outlined in the New Testament. • Prophetic Witness – How the church can influence society by embodying justice, love, and humility without relying on political means. Resources Mentioned: • The 59 "One Another" Commands – A compilation of New Testament directives for Christian community. • "Exiles" by Preston Sprinkle – Insights on the church's role in society. • "Resident Aliens" by Stanley Hauerwas and William Willimon – Discussing the church as a counter-cultural community. Join us

Mike and Tim unveil the revolutionary ways Jesus navigated oppressive systems by balancing submission and subversion, and how this approach empowers us to confront modern challenges with wisdom and courage. Key Takeaways: • The Submissive-Subversive Tension – Understanding how Jesus embodied both submission to authority and subversion of oppressive power structures, providing a model for us today. • Deep Dive into the Herod Family – Exploring the complex dynamics between Jesus and the Herod dynasty, including Herod the Great and his sons Archelaus, Antipas, and Philip. • Parables with Political Undertones – Analyzing how Jesus's parables served as subtle critiques of the political landscape and the rulers of his time. • Joyful Non-Compliance – Discussing Dallas Willard's concept and how it reflects Jesus's approach to authority and societal norms. • Modern Application – Reflecting on how to apply Jesus's example of balancing submission and subversion in our own lives amidst current societal and political chal

An insightful exploration of how Christians can navigate political engagement in a democratic society while embracing their identity as exiles. Mike and Tim dive deep into the church's role in politics, discussing whether Christians should seek to transform society through laws and policies or focus on embodying the kingdom of God within their communities. They respond to Sky Jethani's thoughtful critiques, bringing fresh perspectives to the conversation about power, politics, and faith. Key Takeaways: Exile Identity – Understanding how the biblical concept of exile redefines Christian political identity, allegiance, and hope. Prayer and Action – Examining the relationship between prayer and practical action in responding to disasters and societal issues. Political Power – Analyzing the tension between using political power to influence societal change and the call to live as exiles embodying the kingdom of God. Engaging Critiques – Responding to Sky Jethani's questions about Christian political engagement i

Explore how embracing an exile identity reshapes Christian allegiance, hope, and posture toward government. Mike and Tim delve into lessons from the Book of Acts on how redefining our political identity as exiles can help us navigate the partisan landscape with a focus on the Kingdom of God. Key Takeaways: • Redefining Political Allegiance – Understanding how adopting an exile identity shifts our primary allegiance from partisan politics to the Kingdom of God. • Reconfiguring Hope – Discussing how our hope is not rooted in political outcomes but in Jesus and His mission. • Submission and Subversion – Exploring the tension between submitting to governing authorities and subverting the powers through a Kingdom-focused life. • Insights from Acts – Learning from early Christians on navigating political powers and maintaining faithfulness. • Practical Exile Living – Practical ways to live out the exile identity in today's politicized world. Resources Mentioned: • The Book of Acts – Bible Gateway – Acts • Shane Cl