Vox Podcast With Mike Erre

Mike Erre and Tim Stafford continue their exploration of church models by diving deeper into what it means to practice discipline in centered communities. They discuss the transformative concept of love as a rugged commitment—a commitment to be with others, be for others, and help others move toward growth. Drawing from listener emails and personal experiences, they contrast bounded, fuzzy, and centered church approaches, emphasizing the importance of relational discernment over judgment, wisdom over rules, and the messy yet rewarding journey of living in authentic community. Key Takeaways: Love as a Rugged Commitment – Understanding love as a steadfast commitment to, with, and for others before guiding them toward transformation. From Judgment to Discernment – Differentiating between condemning judgment (bad krino) and relational discernment (good krino) in church discipline. Wisdom Over Rules – Emphasizing the importance of guiding others through wisdom rather than imposing strict rules, both in churc

How the church can move from condemning boundaries to redemptive restoration through relational discernment, radical invitation, and the long-haul work of love. Mike, Tim, and surprise guest Seth Erre dive deep into what real church discipline looks like in a centered-set community—and how bounded and fuzzy churches often get it wrong. Part 5 of the Centered Set Series unpacks core differences between boundary-focused, fuzzy, and centered approaches—and how only the last can truly embody the grace of Jesus. Key Takeaways: • Bounded Church Discipline vs. Centered Restoration – Why enforcing moral or doctrinal rules often leads to shame, exclusion, and hiding rather than transformation. • The Importance of Relational Discernment – Why you can't truly address spiritual formation without long-term, intentional relationship. • Fuzzy Set Pitfalls – How churches without clear direction avoid conflict yet lack the courage to uphold the call of Jesus in meaningful ways. • Jesus-Focused Invitation Over Religious Contro

Discover how shifting from bounded and fuzzy church models to a centered church approach can transform your faith community. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford dive deep into the distinctions between bounded, fuzzy, and centered churches, exploring how focusing on Jesus at the center fosters authenticity, inclusivity, and genuine discipleship. Key Takeaways: • Lines that Shame vs. Invitations to the Center – Understanding how bounded churches use boundaries that shame and exclude, while centered churches focus on inviting everyone towards Jesus without judgment. • Authentic Community and Uneven Discipleship – Exploring how centered churches allow for uneven discipleship paths, encourage questioning and doubting, and foster genuine relationships without the pressure of conformity. • Moving Beyond External Behaviors – Discussing the pitfalls of focusing solely on external behaviors and the importance of heart orientation and relational posture towards Jesus. • Redefining Doctrine and Beliefs – Examining how centered ch

Explore how shifting from bounded and fuzzy sets to a centered-set framework can redefine church unity and community. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford unpack Paul's confrontation with Peter in Galatians and the transformative implications for modern Christianity. They discuss how focusing on Jesus as the center can break down barriers and foster authentic relationships within the church. Key Takeaways: Bounded, Fuzzy, and Centered Sets – Understanding different models of unity and how they impact church communities. Paul's Confrontation with Peter – Analyzing how Paul's challenge in Galatians 2 reorients the focus from boundary markers to Christ-centered unity. Reimagining Church Unity – Moving beyond line drawing to embrace a relational and directional approach centered on Jesus. Practical Applications – How adopting a centered-set mindset can transform our churches and personal faith journeys. Resources Mentioned: Galatians 2 – Paul's confrontation with Peter over inclusion of Gentiles. Acts 10 – Peter's visio

Discover how reexamining justice and mercy through a Christ-centered lens challenges the death penalty, as Mike and Tim sit down with public defender Renee Monzon to discuss her journey and the Christian case against capital punishment. Key Takeaways: Rethinking Justice Through Jesus's Teachings – How Jesus's approach to mercy and justice calls Christians to oppose the death penalty. The Flaws in Capital Punishment – Exploring systemic issues, wrongful convictions, and the lack of deterrence associated with the death penalty. God's Mercy in Scripture – Discussing biblical narratives that highlight God's mercy over retribution, from Cain and Abel to Jesus's interactions with those deemed "worst of the worst." A Public Defender's Journey – Renee shares her path from aspiring international lawyer to advocating for death row inmates, inspired by her faith and commitment to true justice. Guest Highlights: Renee Monzon – A public defender specializing in death penalty cases in Ohio. Renee delves into how her Chri

Explore how confronting racism, misogyny, and division within the church can lead us toward genuine unity and reconciliation. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford engage in a deep conversation with Dr. Tim Gombis, unpacking the complexities of standing in solidarity with those who oppose the very teachings of Jesus and examining how a posture of confession, lament, and humble confrontation can transform our communities. Key Takeaways: The Challenge of Unity in a Divided Church – Understanding how to pursue unity with fellow believers who hold opposing or harmful beliefs. Embracing Confession and Lament – The importance of acknowledging our own complicity in systemic sins like racism and misogyny. Confronting Injustice from Within – How to lovingly confront harmful behaviors in our communities without self-righteousness. Role of the Church in Today's Society – Examining options for individuals and communities seeking to embody the values of Jesus amidst political turmoil. The Posture of Humility – Adopting a Christ-lik

Discover how real-life deconstruction stories can offer hope and guidance for navigating your own faith journey amidst religious trauma and doubt. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into powerful listener stories, unpacking how experiences with church politics, restrictive doctrines, and personal struggles have impacted their spirituality. They discuss the complexities of questioning long-held beliefs, the process of reconstructing faith, and how to rediscover Jesus outside of traditional evangelical norms. Key Takeaways: Deconstruction Journeys – Listener stories highlight struggles with religious trauma, church politics, women's roles in the church, and purity culture. Navigating Faith and Doubt – Insights on how questioning long-held beliefs can lead to a deeper, more authentic relationship with Jesus. Understanding the Unforgivable Sin – Mike and Tim provide context and reassurance about blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, alleviating common fears. Challenging Holiday Traditions – Exploring how religious up

How do we stay faithful to the Jesus of the Gospels when American Christianity often looks nothing like Him? This deeply personal and reflective episode offers an honest mosaic of deconstruction stories from within the Voxology community. Mike and Tim read listener submissions about disillusionment, church trauma, and the painful cost of leaving behind institutional faith while rediscovering a more beautiful Jesus. Drawing from real-life experiences and the story of Mary losing and finding Jesus in the temple, they explore what it means to go back and find the Christ who challenges political idolatry and calls us into self-sacrificial love, not culture war victories. Key Takeaways: • Faithful Deconstruction – Personal stories shared with vulnerability show how crises of faith can actually draw us closer to the heart of Jesus rather than away from Him. • The Beauty of the Gospel – Why the real work of discipleship is immersing ourselves in the Jesus revealed in the Gospels and modeling our image of God on Him

A raw and honest unpacking of what "deconstruction" really is—and isn't—in today's church. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford take time to explore the complexities behind this often-used and often-misunderstood buzzword. Drawing from philosophy, theology, psychology, and their personal experiences, they break down the six distinct processes many people go through under the umbrella of deconstruction—ranging from doubt and disillusionment to discipleship and deconversion. This thoughtful and pastoral conversation serves as both a reflection and a guide for those navigating questions about their faith, the church, and the culture they grew up in. This Exile Series episode aims to reorient our understanding of spiritual unraveling—not as a rebellion against God, but as a potentially vital movement toward deeper faithfulness to Jesus. Key Takeaways: • Understanding Six D's of Deconstruction – Disillusionment, Discipleship, Deconversion, Redefinition, Doubt, and Disorientation—and why not all are harmful. • What's Being D

Discover how challenging traditional gender roles can transform discipleship and the church's mission. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford sit down with author Aimee Byrd to discuss her book "Recovering from Biblical Manhood and Womanhood," exposing the limitations of complementarian teachings and exploring how both men and women can fully participate in the life of the church. Key Takeaways: • Redefining Discipleship Beyond Gender Roles – Amy Byrd explains how the focus on so-called biblical manhood and womanhood distracts from true discipleship and spiritual growth. • The Impact of Theological Misinterpretations – Discussing how teachings like the eternal subordination of the Son have been used to justify female subordination and how this affects both men and women negatively. • Gynocentric Interruptions in Scripture – Exploring how women's voices and stories in the Bible reveal a richer narrative that challenges patriarchal interpretations. • Peeling Back the 'Yellow Wallpaper' – Using the metaphor from Charlotte P

Gain insights into the complexities of deconstruction in the Christian journey as Mike Erre and Tim Stafford engage in a candid conversation with author and pastor Josh Butler. Together, they unravel misconceptions, discuss the impact of personal experiences on faith, and explore how to navigate doubt and spiritual growth within the church. Key Takeaways: Defining Deconstruction – Understanding the various meanings of deconstruction and its role in personal faith journeys. Intentions Behind the Article – Josh explains the purpose of his controversial article on deconstruction and clarifies common misunderstandings. The Role of the Church – Exploring how church leaders and communities can support individuals experiencing doubt and questioning. Navigating Societal Pressures – Discussing the influence of cultural ideologies, social networks, and the internet on deconstruction. Hospitality and Empathy – Emphasizing the importance of listening, patience, and open dialogue in fostering healthy spiritual growth. G

Mike Erre is joined by his 16-year-old daughter, Hannah, for an honest and heartfelt conversation about faith, doubt, and the challenges facing the next generation in the modern church. They delve into Hannah's experiences with rigid religious environments, her journey of questioning, and the hope found in open dialogue and permission to wrestle with tough topics. Key Takeaways: Permission to Question – The importance of creating spaces within the church where doubts and questions are welcomed and encouraged, especially for youth. Navigating Closed-Mindedness – Understanding the impact of black-and-white thinking and the marginalization of differing perspectives within Christian communities. Empathy and Compassion – Hannah shares how embracing others' emotions drives her passion for social justice issues and challenges within the church. Building Relationships Across Differences – Insights into maintaining friendships with those who hold differing beliefs while fostering mutual respect and understanding. Par

Explore how systemic issues within the church contribute to the deconstruction movement as Mike Erre and Tim Stafford critically engage with Joshua Ryan Butler's article "The Four Causes of Deconstruction." Delve into deep conversations about church hurt, poor teaching, and how re-examining our faith can lead to a more authentic relationship with Jesus. Key Takeaways: Understanding Church Hurt Beyond Leadership Failures – Discover how deeper systemic problems and cultural misalignments contribute to church hurt and the deconstruction of faith. The Impact of Poor Teaching on Believers – Learn how inadequate or harmful teachings have led to confusion, disillusionment, and the necessity for re-evaluating doctrinal beliefs. Challenging the Desire to Sin Narrative – Examine the assumption that deconstruction stems from a desire to justify sin, exploring instead the sincere quest for genuine faithfulness to Jesus. Navigating Deconstruction with Compassion and Community – Understand the importance of creatin

Discover how to reclaim unity in a divided church by addressing anger, grievance culture, and political divisions. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford are joined by theologian Tim Gombis to delve into Paul's teachings on unity, the dangers of anger and resentment within the church, and practical steps to foster a community grounded in love, confession, and forgiveness. Key Takeaways: Unity as the Ultimate Value – Exploring how Paul's letters emphasize the paramount importance of unity in the church, transcending earthly loyalties and divisions. The Dangers of Anger and Grievance – Understanding how anger and resentment can invite destructive powers and principalities, leading to division and disunity. Powers and Principalities Explained – Tim Gombis unpacks Ephesians 6:12, explaining how demonic forces influence cultural patterns and how the church can stand firm. Practical Steps Toward Unity – Strategies for cultivating confession, forgiveness, and cruciform love within local church communities. Focusing on Local Ac

Mike Erre and Tim Stafford conclude their Bible Series by delving into how interpreting Scripture within community leads to true transformation. They explore the vital role of embodying the values of Community, Cross, and New Creation in today's church. Join them as they discuss how discipleship is a collective journey toward becoming fully human in Christ, and how the fruitfulness of a community reflects the fidelity of its biblical interpretation. Key Takeaways: Discipleship as a Communal Practice – Understanding that learning to follow Jesus is not an individual endeavor but a shared experience within a supportive community. Community, Cross, and New Creation – Exploring Richard B. Hays' three markers that guide faithful interpretation of Scripture and shape the mission of the church. Fruitfulness Reflects Fidelity – How the character and actions of a community indicate the integrity of its engagement with the Bible. Embodying a Cross-Shaped Life – Embracing humility, sacrifice, and love as modeled by Jes

Explore how challenging traditional views on 'Biblical Womanhood' can lead to a more authentic and inclusive understanding of the Bible and the role of women in the church. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford are joined by historian and author Beth Allison Barr to discuss how the subjugation of women became gospel truth and what this means for modern Christianity. Key Takeaways: • Biblical Womanhood as a Cultural Construct – Understanding how historical and cultural contexts have shaped the notion of 'Biblical Womanhood,' revealing it as a man-made concept rather than a biblical mandate. • The Role of Bible Translations in Reinforcing Patriarchy – Discussing how certain translations have altered or obscured women's roles in scripture to support patriarchal systems. • Inerrancy and Gender Roles – Exploring how the doctrine of inerrancy has been used to uphold gender hierarchies within the church. • Re-examining Scripture for Inclusivity – Encouraging listeners to read the Bible with fresh eyes, recognizing the signific

Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the pitfalls of relying on common Christian clichés like "God told me" and "I feel led," examining how these phrases can lead to misunderstanding and manipulation within the church. They explore a more biblical approach focused on embracing wisdom, community, and partnership with God in decision-making, moving away from the obsessive pursuit of God's specific will in every aspect of life. Key Takeaways: • Challenging Christian Clichés – Understanding how phrases like "God called me" can hinder genuine faith and community. • Embracing Biblical Wisdom – Discovering the Bible's emphasis on wisdom over seeking specific directives, and how this leads to healthier decision-making. • The Importance of Community – Highlighting the role of trusted counsel and communal discernment in our spiritual journeys. • Avoiding Manipulative 'God Talk' – Recognizing the dangers of using "God language" to manipulate others and how to communicate more honestly. • Partnering with God – Encouragi

Discover why viewing the Bible through the lens of inerrancy might limit our understanding of its divine and human nature. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the complexities of Scripture, discussing how a more nuanced approach can lead to a deeper, more faithful engagement with God's Word. They tackle the challenges of biblical interpretation, the role of community in understanding Scripture, and the importance of approaching the Bible with humility. Key Takeaways: • Challenging the Concept of Inerrancy – Understanding why inerrancy might be a lower view of the Bible and how it can hinder our relationship with Scripture. • Embracing the Bible's Divine and Human Nature – Exploring the co-participation between God and humans in the writing of the Bible, and how this impacts our interpretation. • The Importance of Context and Genre – Recognizing the significance of literary genres, historical context, and cultural background in interpreting Scripture. • Community and Humility in Interpretation – Highlighting

Discover how 'Midnight Mass' serves as a mirror to the modern church, revealing the dangers of misguided faith, the perversion of theology, and the implications for believers today. Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and special guest Kaitlyn Schiess delve deep into the series' portrayal of religious zealotry, the seductive nature of miracles, and how the show brilliantly maps Christian themes onto a horror narrative, provoking thoughtful reflection on faith and community. Key Takeaways: • Justifying Evil in the Name of Faith – Exploring how Midnight Mass illustrates the ease with which religious communities can rationalize harmful actions. • The Allure and Danger of Miracles – Discussing the seductive power of miracles in the series and their parallels to real-world faith experiences. • Fear, Shame, and Redemption – Analyzing characters' motivations and how fear and shame influence their journey, reflecting dynamics within the church. • Inversion of Christian Symbols – Unpacking how the show inverts Christian rituals

Discover how embracing a cross-shaped life transforms our understanding of community, leadership, and service. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford explore what it means to live in the way of Jesus, redefining greatness through humility and self-sacrificial love demonstrated on the cross. Key Takeaways: Cruciformity Explained – Understanding the concept of living a cross-shaped life and how it redefines our approach to leadership and community. Redefining Greatness – Exploring Jesus's teachings on leadership as servanthood, moving away from selfish ambition toward self-sacrifice. Using Privilege for Others – Discussing how to leverage our rights and advantages for the benefit of others, following the example of Jesus. Community and Justice – Examining how a cross-shaped community embodies justice, lifts up the marginalized, and fosters true unity. Hermeneutical Humility – Reflecting on the importance of approaching scripture with humility and openness to being challenged. Resources Mentioned: Richard Hays – Insights