Process Driven

Last week, we released a show that seems to be resonating with quite a few of you. In fact, we’ve received more feedback on that episode than any other episode we’ve done. I think it’s because so many of us are in the same place with trying to figure out where what we make fits, how to get it out there in front of people, and if we’re lucky, make a little money from it. This week is sort of a continuation of last week’s conversation, but we begin with a little chat about gear. CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed. MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two addit

This episode wasn’t meant to be an episode. It started as one of our pre-show chats — Sean and I just talking before we jumped into what we had actually planned to talk about, which now completely escapes me. But as it’s happened so many times before when we talk, we went off on a tangent, and this time it was a deep one around worth and value and the often paralyzing fear of showing ourselves to the world through the things we make. LINKSHalston (Netflix): https://www.netflix.com/title/80245103Halston Documentary (Prime Video): https://www.amazon.com/Halston-Tavi-Gevinson/dp/B08CS6D1ZNObey Giant: https://obeygiant.com/Andy Warhol's Marilyn Diptych: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu9Bm8aw_lI CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every s

In this episode, Sean and I are talking about output, not in terms of what we produce, but how the work I’ve recently dipped my toes into the world of synthesizers, something I’ve been interested in for years but never really pursued. In this episode, Sean and I talk about the importance of pursuing creative interests outside of your “main” pursuits for no other purpose but to, as Sean puts it, always be a beginner at something. We also talk about Tinker Toys, a band called Snarky Puppy, what a good guy Jason Momoa seems to be and a whole lot more. LINKSVCV RackMicroFreakHarold BuddTangerine DreamPaprTapeDavid CarsonSoma Lyra 8Tinker ToysDave Matthews Band #41Snarky PuppyLukas NelsonJason Momoa ET clip Jason Momoa Human Recreational Services CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everythin

One of the things I love about talking to Bill Wadman is that even when we don’t talk for a while, the banterand chemistry that was the heart of On Taking Pictures for more than 300 episodes is right there regardless of what we’re talking about. It’s been that way since the first episode and nearly a decade later, it’s still fun to see where we end up. CONNECT WITH BILLWebsite: https://billwadman.comTwitter: @billwadmanInstagram: @billwadman CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris Music in this episodeFive to One by Steve PoloniAll of the music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist.io, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist.io free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist This post may contain affiliate links. If you use these links to buy something, I may earn a commission. Thanks.

In this episode, Sean and I are talking about output, not in terms of what we produce, but how the work we make is presented to an audience. For example, are you only sharing your work online, or do you also make prints. Maybe you make photobooks or show your work in galleries. How our work appears out in the world can have a dramatic effect on how compelling it is to a viewer. We also talk about the new Bond film, No Time To Die — specifically the score and how brilliantly Hans Zimmer took one of the most recognizable pieces of music in cinema and made it his own. LINKSGenesis ImagingHans Zimmer recording No Time to DieHanz Zimmer on InterstellarMad Max: Black and Chrome CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.

In this episode, Sean and I are talking about meeting our heroes and how the outcome of those meetings can often affect how we are able to see and connect with the work they make. We also talk about the importance of finding that thing or maybe multiple things that light you up and you do simply for the fun or the joy of it. CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed. MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist This post may contain affiliate links. If you use these links to buy something, I

In this episode, Sean and I are talking about a photo essay that raised some interesting questions for each of us, such as how do you respond to an artist’s newer work when it doesn’t hit you the same way their earlier work did? Have they changed or have you? Or is it some of each? And how much should the context of the work matter to how it lands with a viewer? LINKSAlec Soth’s Lost in TranslationAt Eternity’s Gate CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed. MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/

A few episodes back, Sean and I were talking about social media and Sean mentioned that Ben Horne, who is a terrific large format landscape photographer I spoke to on Process Driven 41, had left Twitter and Instagram and was just focusing on the community he had on YouTube. I reached out to Ben to see if he’d like to come on the show to talk about why he did it and how it’s affected him, both personally and professionally. CONNECT WITH BENWebsite: https://www.benhorne.comYouTube: Ben Horne CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed. MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to

In this episode of Deep Natter, Sean and I are continuing a previous discussion about finding our why around the things we make. Sometimes, it’s easy to lose our way and we end up needing to make a few tweaks or even a hard reset to get us back in the groove. LINKSPrimordial (Jeff Lemire)Gideon Falls Sweet Tooth (Netflix)Sweet Tooth (Comic)Monsters (Gareth Edwards)El Mariachi (Robert Rodriguez)Midnight MiracleProcess Driven 37 with Jack LoweSerialS-Town13 Minutes to the MoonBlackoutFake Famous on HBO CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed. MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the followi

In this episode of Deep Natter, one of Sean’s Instagram accounts got hacked, which has us talking about to what degree we’re comfortable relying on social media platforms as the main place to share our work and connect with an audience. Plus, a new HBO Documentary about social media sparks a chat about a growing number of influencers who want little more than for social media to make them famous, even if it’s not real. CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed. MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.

In this episode, Sean and I are talking about owning the things we make. What I mean by that is that we stand behind our art and put our voice, our process, and ourselves first, before we worry about packaging it, branding it, and marketing it to an audience. CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: https://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed. MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist This post may contain affiliate links. If you use these links to buy something, I may earn a commission. Thanks.

This is actually episode 10.5 or “10 Take Two” of Deep Natter, since we had a little bit of a power outage situation and had to record this week’s show a second time. It actually worked out for the best though, since it gave Sean and me time to think about the subject matter a little more and dive just a bit deeper into discussing it. LINKSMy Life as a Failed Artist (via Vulture) CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed. MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist This post may contain affi

Sean is going to be doing a new project with one of his oldest friends, so in this episode we’re talking about podcasting, both from the side of the listener and also from the perspective of the creator. Plus, Sean shares a bit of the beauty and the complexity of his early life growing up in South Africa. CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris BE A PART OF THE SHOWYou can listen to Deep Natter live and be a part of the conversations on Tuesdays at 2pm ET on Clubhouse. SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed. MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: h

In this episode, Sean and I are talking about collaboration finding your voice and to help us illustrate some of this, we’re going to be talking about a terrific HBO documentary from 2017 called Spielberg. And while the film is ostensibly about Spielberg and became one of the greatest directors of all time, largely pulling from his own life experiences, it’s also about the group of filmmakers who came up around him pushing him and each other to go further and be better at the craft they loved. LINKSSpielbergSpielberg on Prime Video CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris BE A PART OF THE SHOWYou can listen to Deep Natter live and be a part of the conversations on Tuesdays at 2pm ET on Clubhouse. SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed. MUSICHigh Line

Sean Tucker has just released a new book called The Meaning in the Making. Over twelve chapters, using stories from his own life, as well as references from literature, art, philosophy, and religion, Sean attempts to understand and explain “the why and how behind our human need to create.” I’ve been lucky enough to hear little snippets here and there during the course of its creation, but Sean and I have never really talked about it as a complete piece of work until now. In this conversation, I’m talking to Sean about the process behind writing the book and we begin with what I thought was the most logical and maybe even obvious question: why write a book at all, and why did it have to be this one? LINKSThe Meaning in The Making CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: https://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your fa

In this episode, Sean Tucker and I are talking about some of the challenges of bringing focus back from our various social media platforms to our own websites, which in many ways are the only places we have online that allow us to really curate how our work is presented to an audience. We also talk about how much we miss communities and how easy it has become to simply retreat into creative isolation. The Talented Mr. RipleyPhantom ThreadRobin Williams’ speech in Good Will HuntingWerner Herzog MasterclassThe PeregrineCONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris BE A PART OF THE SHOWYou can listen to Deep Natter live and be a part of the conversations on Tuesdays at 2pm ET on Clubhouse. SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed. MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMus

In this episode, we’re talking about chasing objective good in art making and selling out to please an audience versus making strategic choices to keep an audience engaged with the work we make. We also share a few things you might want to check out to help level up your inspiration. LINKSThe Rewatchables PodcastThe GameThe RevanentBarry LyndonShot DeckNational Gallery of ArtMaking the CutThe New Propaganda, vol. 1Dorothy Simpson Krause CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris BE A PART OF THE SHOWYou can listen to Deep Natter live and be a part of the conversations on Tuesdays at 2pm ET on Clubhouse. SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed. MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music li

In this episode, Sean talks about a recent trip to London where he may have had his most productive day of photography ever, which is a pretty bold statement. We also talk about the importance of inspirational friends as well as our shared appreciation for the work of Richard Avedon, Don McCullin, and Sally Mann. CONNECT WITH SEANWebsite: http://seantucker.photographyTwitter: @seantuckInstagram: @seantuckYouTube: Sean Tucker CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris BE A PART OF THE SHOWYou can listen to Deep Natter live and be a part of the conversations on Tuesdays at 2pm ET on Clubhouse. SUBSCRIBESubscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed. MUSICHigh Line by DuffmusiqMusic featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you si

The other day I was on the phone with Bill Wadman and it didn’t take long before Bill asked “wait, should we be rolling tape on this?” When you’ve recorded 1000 or so hours with someone, the answer is usually yes. I just wish we had been rolling from the beginning, because when Bill called, he asked what I was doing and I said that I was listening to Steve Perry. Without missing a beat, Bill launched into the opening bars of Oh Sherrie and we both started cracking up. Here's the rest of the conversation. CONNECT WITH BILLWebsite: https://billwadman.comTwitter: @billwadmanInstagram: @billwadman CONNECT WITH JEFFERYWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris Music in this episodeFive to One by Steve PoloniAll of the music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist.io, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist.io free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist 

Brooke Shaden is one of a select few artists who manages to consistently create work that is so visceral and resonates so deeply that it makes me want to step into the picture so I can inhabit that world, even for a moment. Her work is sometimes haunting, sometimes dark, sometimes disturbing, but always interesting and challenging enough, both conceptually and technically, that I’ve been a fan for years and am always eager to see what she comes up with next. I’ve wanted to talk to her for a long time and I’m so grateful that we could make this happen. CONNECT WITH BROOKEWebsite: https://brookeshaden.com/Facebook: Brooke Shaden PhotographyInstagram: @brookeshaden CONNECT WITH MEWebsite: https://jefferysaddoris.comTwitter: @jefferysaddorisInstagram: @jefferysaddoris MUSICNormalize by Stanley GurvichPlease Listen Carefully by Jahzzar (CC BY-SA 4.0)Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two a