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This is the second episode of the COMEBACKS series, featuring Liz Tran. I loved getting to talk with her again in this new format. In this episode, Liz shares her experience with divorce, reinvention, dating, and what it actually takes to rebuild your life when the version you planned for falls apart. We talk about how loneliness can transform you when you stop trying to outrun it, the ways avoidance can masquerade as productivity, AQ (adaptability quotient), timelines, and learning to trust that your life can expand in ways you never could have planned for. SHOW NOTES: Explore more from Katie Dalebout: Katie Dalebout Substack + Let It Out Lists Katie's Instagram: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout My Zine Shop and My Creative Clinic Find Liz on the Web | Instagram | Podcast  Liz's latest book,  AQ: A New Kind of Intelligence for a World That's Always Changing  Liz's first book, The Karma of Success If you liked this episode, try this one from the archive: Karma Success with Liz Tran, Founder of Reset NYC

In this first episode of the new COMEBACKS series, I spoke with my longtime friend Jessica Murnane about reinvention, knowing when to move on, and why I tend to linger in the past too long. We talk about creative pivots, grief around letting go, and starting again—without forcing it. Jess shares how she’s built multiple careers, moved cities, why she’s not nostalgic, and the simple question she always comes back to when she’s stuck: What are you waiting for? Let us know if you listen. Key Insights:  Starting something new can be the fastest way to let go of something old. Reinvention isn’t always strategic—it’s often a gut feeling that it’s time to move on. Lingering (in careers, relationships, identities) is often about fear, not timing. Nostalgia can keep us stuck. Success isn’t recognition or fame—it’s often feeling financially and emotionally steady. Movement is one of the best ways to shift your mental state when stuck, even just a few minutes. Aging narratives are mostly cultural noise—you don’t

This week, a very important person in my life—Sacha Jones—hosts the podcast. Every year for nearly a decade Sacha has come back on to host the episode the last week of April (the week of my birthday). This year she really outdid herself: she shocks me with questions sourced from my friends and family and a special guest joins us to host a special rapid-fire round.  Sacha is one of the most creative, wise, and gentle people I know and our annual catch-ups end up being time capsules of what we’re leaning this year. Prior to her surprises, we cover focus while being people who do many things. And how much the little things—like simple routines, mean to me. I will be back on the other side of the interview next week but until then I hope this conversation offers you something, that you come away from it feeling the energy of it. Or that it keeps you company you during your day. Show notes: - Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox - Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @kat

This week I spoke with Kyle (Smiling Strange) about generations, the internet then vs. now, how we discover music as we grow up, and what it takes to keep evolving instead of calcifying with age. We talk about his process of making videos while walking around his neighborhood, why authenticity cuts through the algorithm, and how culture is shifting faster than we can keep up. This one is eclectic—it goes from music to the internet to creativity to philosophy (and even economics). Kyle is super interesting and fun to talk to, and I left this conversation with a lot to ponder. I hope you do too. Let us know if you listen.   Show Notes / Resources More of Kyle: Hey Smily Strange: A podcast about DIY scenes, independent music, and the best uncslop available. Smiling Strange Patreon: Internet Busking + Exclusive Content Follow Kyle Rosse on IG @smiling_strange Also check out @__pileup__ and @yellowrooooom Explore more from Katie Dalebout—host of the Let It Out Podcast—including her writing, cr

This week I spoke with Emmalea Russo about her novel Vivienne, the strange experience of putting art into the world right now, and what it means to create something that doesn’t try to make everyone comfortable. We talk about cancel culture, ’90s nostalgia, the difference between information and truth, discomfort in art (and growth), and how dreams can act as an antidote to the algorithmic age. This one gets a little philosophical—we go from astrology to internet culture to the writing process to dreams—so buckle up. Let us know if you listen ⭐️   Show Notes / Resources / Mentions: Vivienne by Emmalea Russo Dream School Emmalea Russo's website The Moon Papers, A Novel by Emmalea Russo Find Katie: Katie's Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Zine shop is here! My Creative Clinic. If you liked this episode, try this one from the archive: Collapsing Timelines with Holisticism's Michelle & Wallis

This is part two of my conversation with herbalist and writer Rachelle Robinett, recorded live in LA in a very intimate room full of friends while talking about her book Naturally. In this part, we get into our favorite themes from her book: pleasure, pain,  transformation, grief, and the ways creative expression helps us process. We also talk about sleep hygiene, the connection between slowing down and self-awareness, why knowing the state you’re trying to shift matters before reaching for anything, and how herbalism can help when you know what you’re actually seeking. Toward the end, we open it up to questions about adaptogens, nervines, kava, tinctures, fresh versus dried herbs, and what daily life looks like now that Rachelle lives in Costa Rica, where she says she’s practicing herbalism less like a system and more like a way of living.   Show Notes / Resources / Mentions: Learn more about Rachelle Robinett on her website: https://www.rachellerobinett.com/ Follow Rachelle Robinett on IG @rachellerobine

This week is a little different: usually I’m the one asking the questions, but this time I’m on the other side. My friend Sophie had me on as the first guest to her new podcast, Late to the Party, where she interviewed me. This conversation ended up feeling surprisingly cathartic and was the most honest I’ve ever been while being recorded. She gave me a container to share and her genuine interest, thoughtful questions, and care gave me the confidence to open up about things I haven't. This episode fills in a lot of the story of what’s been happening with not only me these last several years but also tells the full story of the podcast,  from beginning to the middle, I'm still in now. Sophie’s show, Late To the Party is a perfect companion to this show, it’s for anyone who feels a little behind in love, work, or life, or is growing into something new. It was an honor to be her first guest and listen to all the episodes she's aired since.   Show Notes / Resources / Mentions: Late to the Party Podcast Instagr

This week I spoke with herbalist and writer Rachelle Robinett about her new book, Naturally, and some of my favorite ideas inside it: dopamine, novelty, primal motivation and strategies to regulate our nervous systems. We also talk about how the ways we distract ourselves are often attempts at a change in state and how knowing what type of state change we’re craving can help us determine not only which herb to work with, but what the desire under the craving actually is. We get into her favorite herb, how she uses it as an alternative to alcohol, as well as how she’s evolved within wellness culture and how she’s redefining ambition now.   Show Notes / Resources / Mentions: Learn more about Rachelle Robinett on her website Follow Rachelle Robinett on IG @rachellerobinett RSVP Here to a free live event with Rachelle, Herb Club LA, and me on March 9th at 6pm. Grab her book Naturally on Amazon Find Katie: Katie's Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Zine shop is here! My Creative Clinic Book Le

This week I talked to attorney and writer Savala Nolan. Her newest book, Good Woman, which was named a Most Anticipated Feminist Book of 2026 by Ms. Magazine, is out now. I got to read an early copy and loved it. She writes with raw honesty about making herself smaller, both literally and metaphorically, in order to be a good daughter, a good wife, a good mother, and all the ways she allowed herself to be diminished to keep the peace, and how many others do this too. The 12 essays blend cultural commentary, personal experience, reportage, and history. We talked about the vulnerable process of writing a personal book of essays, including writing about divorce, motherhood, and the importance of respecting one’s appetite in every way, from creative to physical. I always love talking to Savala and loved getting to catch up with her here. Let us know if you listen.

This week, I’m joined again by emotional eating expert Tricia Nelson. This time, we explore the intricate connection between emotional eating and romantic relationships. We talk about how emotional responsibility includes becoming aware of the ways food struggles can impact intimacy and communication in relationships.We also discuss how isolation can intensify emotional eating, why connection and honesty are essential to healing, and the underlying reasons food becomes a coping mechanism. Tricia shares practical ways she has helped people shift these deep-rooted patterns, including how processing, expressing, and communicating how we’re feeling is essential to changing compulsive eating behaviors. It’s an honest conversation about how long-term struggles with food can affect the people in our lives, with practical advice for how to feel and connect with others instead of numb and avoid with food.If you liked this episode, here's my first episode with her: Why We Eat Our Feelings (and What to Do Instead)—Trici

My close friend Christine came over on New Year’s Day and we caught up on what’s ahead. We talk about friendship, big life transitions, and the constant evolution we all experience. She’s candid about how she’s changed creatively, professionally, and personally, including navigating freelance work amid uncertainty, and her excitement about becoming a parent and how pregnancy has unexpectedly fueled her productivity. We reflect on our last interviews, what she’s learned since, and the importance of staying adaptable. She’s quietly shown me how to move through change with poise and loved getting to have a time capsule conversation of this time in her life. It's a warm, reflective conversation about staying adaptable, new beginnings and staying on nodding terms with past versions of ourselves. Let us know if you listen!Find Chrissstttiiine on Instagram | YouTube | Watch a video version of this here: https://youtu.be/1UKPcKN0Pe0 Katie's Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout  | Zine shop is here!  Creative C

*This episode originally aired in 2017. I made a new intro/ reaction to it. It's my first conversation ever with my now very dear friend. Look out for an updated conversation between us next week. January 2017Today's conversation is one of the rare occasions where I make a friend live on the podcast. This conversation exceeded my expectation of what Christine would be like live. She was every bit as thoughtful, earnest, and wise as she comes off in the hundreds of YouTube videos she's published. Christine went to film school and simultaneously began on YouTube when she was just 18 and has been uploading to her chanel ever since. Her videos range from home decor to film photography to make-up to design to music. We get into everything from a cultivating a career as a freelancer to recovering after a tough breakup to handling aging and body image and finding a community. We also talk about  style, religion, family,  travel and more. I loved meeting her and having this meandering conversation which I think you'l

In this episode, I talk with author and emotional-eating expert Tricia Nelson about why we turn to food for comfort, what emotional eating actually is (it’s not about willpower), and how to build a life that makes late-night kitchen raids less inevitable. We get into compulsions, body image, aging, intimacy, the “tiger out of the cage” metaphor, and why healing has way more to do with buried feelings and stress patterns than with food itself. It’s an honest, tender conversation about breaking cycles, lowering pressure, and learning to feel instead of numb.Show Notes:Emotional Eating Free QuizBook: Heal Your Hunger: 7 Simple Steps to End Emotional Eating NowInstagram: @tricianelson_Website: healyourhunger.comPodcast: Heal Your Hunger Show on Apple PodcastsFind Katie:Katie's Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout  | Zine shop is here!My Creative Clinic. Book Let It Out: A Journey Through JournalingIf you liked this episode, try this one from the archive: Episode 422 | Well-being > Wellness: Christy Harriso

This week, I spoke with Jessica Gill, Chief Content Officer at To Be Magnetic, about creativity, expansion, and what it really means to feel your feelings. We talked about grief, nostalgia, career ruts, rock bottoms, and how to get unstuck by doing the opposite of what you usually do. Jessica shares practical tools for raising self-worth, letting go of the past, and reconnecting to radical authenticity. If you’ve ever felt in limbo or like your old shell doesn’t fit anymore, this one will hit home.Show notes:Sign up here to get a companion workbook for this episode and the next!Jessica's Instagram | YoutubeKatie's Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout  | Zine shop is here!My Creative Clinic. Book Let It Out: A Journey Through JournalingIf you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 481: (RERUN) Get Better at Feeling: The Art of Emotional Expansion - Lacy Phillips on Body Image, Style, and How To Be Magnetic (EP 212)

*This episode originally aired in 2018, re-airing it today in honor of Lacy's new book. And look out for an updated conversation between us later this week. In late 2017, a friend mentioned a workshop she’d attended in New York led by Lacy. After hearing about her experience, I was intrigued, yet slightly apprehensive because after years of obsession and addiction to all things personal-growth, I was at a point where I was exhausted by content even in the vicinity of self-help. Despite my trepidation, I checked out Lacy's work. From her style and aesthetic to her framework and perspective, her work was incredibly intriguing. In the weeks leading up to this interview, I was a bit nervous to meet her in person. Fortunately, Lacy was warm, putting me at ease the second I walked into her Brooklyn apartment. We sipped a tea infusion she made us (Lacy’s an herbalist) and chatted for hours about everything from body image and food to design to relationships and boundaries. She was kind, charming, articulate, and I l

This week I spoke with longtime activist and author Dean Spade about the complexities of relationships and the challenges we face in a society shaped by disposability culture. We discussed the fear of being wrong in public and of conflict and feedback. He spoke about why self-help often falls short in addressing systemic issues and shared some insights from his latest book, Love in a F*cked Up World, which offers practical advice on navigating personal growth and connection in a world that often feels isolating and disconnected. I loved both the book and this conversation. Let us know if you listen! Show notes:- Dean's books | podcast | IG: @spade.dean- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 426 - Queering in Friendships: Rae McDaniel, Sex Therapist & Author of Gender Magic, Returns

This week, I talked to interior designer Cooper Osinski. He shared what makes a space feel personal, how he balances his style with client work, and how he developed his taste and style while navigating trends. We also discussed his intentional approach to growing an online presence on YouTube and how he stays thoughtful and constructive when offering design commentary. Cooper was as warm and inviting as the spaces he creates, and he offered heaps of practical, accessible tips—including small design fixes that make a big impact. Whether you're deep into design or just curious, he makes the world of interiors feel both approachable and fun. Let us know if you listen. Show notes:- Find Cooper on the Web | Instagram | YouTube- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 425 - Mindful Space Design: Anjie Cho Returns

This week, I talk to business strategist Abbi Miller about navigating pivots in both personal and professional life. Abbi was on the podcast five years ago, and her perspective on time management, which she calls Time Pessimism, is a concept I’ve found helpful ever since. Since then, much has changed for her both personally and collectively (including becoming a mom). In this episode, we catch up on everything she’s learned since then, including how to work with the muse when it strikes and how she sets up systems to support that flow. We also discuss how to deal with cynicism and find ambition again, and her strategies for effective quarterly goal-setting. Plus, Abbi gets me to open up about some of my own career changes and how I’ve been navigating them within my life. And you can hear me talk about it more on her show, where she had me on as a guest too. Show notes:- Abbi's Workwomb Instagram | Podcast- Free 30-min consult with Abbi to chat about working together- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedale

This week, I talk to Erin Claire Jones, one of the world’s leading experts in Human Design. She talks about her journey from skeptically discovering it at a party to now writing a book (How Do You Choose) about how we can use our design to make better decisions in relationships and career. Erin also shares how these principles have transformed her life, and we explore how they can be used by anyone, even those just beginning to learn about the system.I first discovered her grounded approach to Human Design when I was gifted a personalized reading by her in 2017. What she shared was so useful to me, it led me to host 2 live podcast episodes with her as the guest. Since then, her work has been featured in Forbes, Elle, Vogue, and Nylon, and she's worked with thousands of people in over 160 countries. Erin and I reflect on how the concepts in her new book connect to the way we navigate our lives, as well as how Human Design can be used as a tool for self-awareness, overcoming obstacles, and better communication

LA-based artist Christopher DeLoach and I talked about his path from class clown to intrepid traveler—walking the Appalachian Trail—to becoming an artist and creating the iconic bumper stickers you know and love. He shares a series of surreal encounters while hitchhiking, including rides with enigmatic characters that challenged his worldview. Our conversation spans time—from his childhood in NYC to adventures in his early 20s and how both continue to shape him today. We talked about identity, American culture, his painting process, collecting ideas, funding and sustaining a career in LA, becoming known for something, doubt, belief, and even death. It’s a humorous and earnest conversation that I really loved—let us know if you listen!Show notes:- Find Christopher on the Web | Instagram -The bumper sticker story we talk about- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- Zine shop is here! - My Creative ClinicIf you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 393: Kismet Color with Artist Kimmy Qui