Teaching Artistry With Courtney J. Boddie

We are back with the second part of Episode 51: “Name, Listen, Witness,” in which Courtney continues her conversation with Rabab Ghazoul, a “socially-engaged visual artist whose work explores points of contact between systems of power and individual agency, voices that are yet to speak, spaces of in-between-ness, and the body politic.” Rabab speaks very eloquently about the responsibility we have, as artists and changemakers, to be co-conspirators, advocate and make a case not just to “do the work,” but to be truly mindful of others’ past traumas—to avoid perpetuating harm to communities. In their discussion, Courtney and Rabab also chat about the societal and cultural shifts occurring all around us, including the collapse of oppressive systems like colonialism and the historical legacies of racism that are embedded in our daily lives. Rabab points out the need to see the ultimate grinding down of these systems or the work of extracting them from people and communities will need to continue. Courtney also ask