On this episode of Knowing Animals, we are joined by Professor Karen Bradshaw. Karen is a Professor of Law and the Mary Sigler Fellow at Sandra Day O'Connor College of Law at Arizona State University. She is also a Faculty Affiliate Scholar at the New York University School of Law Classical Liberal Institute and a Senior Sustainability Scientist at the Global Institute of Sustainability at Arizona State University. She has received scholarly and popular recognition for her contributions to questions around Environmental Law, Administrative Law, Land Use Law, and Natural Resources Law, and was awarded the 2020 Stegner Young Scholar prize in recognition of her legal scholarship. We talk about her book Wildlife as Property Owners: A New Conception of Animal Rights, which was published by the University of Chicago Press in 2020. This episode of Knowing Animals is brought to you by AASA (the Australasian Animal Studies Association) and the Animal Publics book series at Sydney University Press.