Canterbury Mornings

National Party MP Nicky Wagner, who got an unfavourable mention in the Jami-Lee Ross tapes, has responded by saying frank discussions about party renewal are just part of political life.The Christchurch based list MP was one of those named in a phone conversation between Jami-Lee Ross and leader Simon Bridges which was released yesterday.Speaking with Newstalk ZB's Chris Lynch, Wagner said it really shows people can live two lives.‘The motivation behind Ross making the tapes public comes back to him being a narcissist who feels spurned on.’Wagner says it has been a traumatic week for National, and she is very angry and disappointed in the actions taken by Ross. “Ross has hurt a lot of people and I am very pleased he is no longer in our caucus anymore. He is going through a psychotic episode at the moment and I feel sorry for the people around him."LISTEN ABOVE AS NICKY WAGNER SPEAKS TO CHRIS LYNCH